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Sambucus niger (non-cultivar)


By David

Sambucus niger (non-cultivar)

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I don't know what this is yet. Will post a query in the "Questions section.

23 Oct, 2008


It's a lovely colour.
Will go well in your garden. :o)

23 Oct, 2008


Thanks to Hoya, I have been able to label this lovely-coloured shrub in our new garden.

23 Oct, 2008


I was thinking same, TT. :-)

23 Oct, 2008


Great plant... just wait till you see the blossom! You'll LOVE it!

29 Oct, 2008


Hi Lori! If it's anything like my Sambucus "Black Lace", which I brought with me from the old garden, it'll be great! But the pics I've seen online of this plain one seem stunning can't wait! My "Black Lace" is currently filled with dark brown berries - a bit like chocolate-coated raisins!

30 Oct, 2008


I had plans to buy "BL" this spring but decided that since we will be moving it would be better to wait another year....wishing now that I had just bought one! post lots of pics David...I'll enjoy watching your Sambucas niger instead.

31 Oct, 2008


Lori, I brought my "Black Lace" with me from our old garden, and it seems to be doing fine. The S. niger is in the wrong spot in this garden, I think, but i don't think that it could be moved.

1 Nov, 2008
I apologize that this link is not a UK link...but it has some good info on transplanting mature specimens... thought you might want to take a peek anyway... You could start out by root pruning the specimen early in the season... (this usually just involves spading to a depth of 12 inches around the drip line of the foliage, and allowing the plant to produce a rootball)...then digging the complete rootball...burlapping ...and then transporting to the "million dollar hole" and keeping it very well watered (good drainage is ensured by the MDH) until it starts to put down more roots. this process could see your Sambucas in a better spot as early as next spring...but next autumn at the latest. Is it too large to move?.

1 Nov, 2008


Wow, Lori, Thank You very much for this. The S. niger has, sometime in the past, been chopped down to a mere stump, with many sideshoots having sprung up since. It is up against the edge of the garden path, and I don't know how far the roots spread. Have tried counting tree rings, in an effort to guess the age, but none very visible. It is not, however, that old (the trunk diameter measures 8"). I've tried chopping through tree roots before, but in order to kill, not save. I do think that this one deserves to be saved, and given its own space to grow. I'll look at this site later and definitely try it. I've since noticed another two of these in front gardens in our street.

1 Nov, 2008


Wow! here I was talking "shrub" and you're talking "tree"... yes that will be a large undertaking, considering the garden path... could you take heel cuttings? and root them up in the greenhouse? then you could remove the stump to another location with less angst about success or failure!

4 Nov, 2008


Lori, I don't want to disturb the path. It looks great, a bit like a snaking chcocolate river in its own right, especially when wet. Heel cuttings are a possibility, but won't give me a large enough show of brown foliage next summer. Also, don't yet have a greenhouse in the new garden (this is a sore point). The new owner of our previous home 'phoned to ask if I wanted to come and take my old greenhouse, to save him a demolition job (he proceeded to tell me that my workshop has already been flattened, (and I spent time and money on it recently, re-roofing it and laying a brand new floor, as he said he would keep it!). I loved my greenhouse, not least because it was a gift from dear work colleagues 8 years ago when I left to take up my present post. I've never successfully moved greenhouses in the past. Sentimentality has gone out the window now, though. If I went back to retrieve it, I'd hate to see what's become of our "Land of Oz". Also, I would never get what I really want - a much larger version, heehee!. So, will hold out for this! Meantime, I have the conservatory, so the heel cuttings are a possibility! I think that everyone's got used to the fact that the conservatory planting consists of tomatoes, cukes, and chillis (the inhabitants of old greenhouse - all doing fine and fruiting yet). Hmmm, you've got me thinking now on this Sambucus!

5 Nov, 2008


As I said, David, cuttings would be like an insurance policy.
Oh dear! not again! You invested so much work and love into your OZ.... it really hurts, doesn't it? So ~ onwards...where were you thinking of putting the (newer, larger) greenhouse? Sounds like your new garden is wonderful...and a posh!...lucky you!
Maybe you could enlist Lucky to help digging the roots!

5 Nov, 2008


Lori, there is an area up by the playroom where a greenhouse could go. I've been toying with the idea of building one to my own design (a "glass elevator" for our theme, perhaps?). You're right, it's time to get Lucky trained up as a gardener.

6 Nov, 2008 elevator... can't wait for that!

20 Nov, 2008

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